The
'German idealist' Immanuel Kant could be hard-headed. "Whoever wills the end, wills the
unavoidably necessary means," he said.
There
are many non-Syrians who rant and rave against Assad. They demand that the world 'do something'
about him. They 'support' the rebels, or
some of the rebels. These people
allegedly want Assad gone. But they do
not will the unavoidably necessary means to remove him, so they do not will the
alleged end. Their ranting expresses
mere dislike, not serious intention.
Since they will not so much as advocate what it takes to end the
catastrophe, even their dislike can't run so terribly deep.
What it
takes to end Assad's catastrophe is support for all the rebels, including some
radical, anti-democratic Islamists who have pledged allegiance to Al Qaeda's
leader Ayman al-Zawahiri. It takes
willingness, directly or indirectly, to supply these extremists. Try, if you like, to find one single
commentator who doesn't espouse some sort of falsehood or sophistry to avoid
this conclusion.
The main
maneuver is to claim that there is a secularist democratically-minded rebel
force, usually called the Free Syrian Army, sufficient to defeat Assad. Sometimes it is said, approvingly, that this
force is 'vetted' by the CIA. With more
backing, some say, this force is also the best bet against ISIS, far better
than Assad. Or, even if they're not the
best bet in the short run, they're the best bet in the long run: even if Assad might do as well as a weapon
against the immediate threat of ISIS, only the FSA could provide a long-term,
solid counter to ISIS - by eliminating the Assadist tyranny that spawned ISIS
in the first place.
None of
this is right - it's false, misleading or incapable of making its case.
There
are incorruptible secularist democratically-minded forces, but they are small;
on their own they couldn't even hold their own.
In the South, where they are strongest and most independent of Islamist
influence, big things have been promised for years. The promises faded and now, with Russian
assistance to the régime, they have vanished.
In the North, also for years, the FSA has needed help from and alliance
with radical Islamists. Fear of these
Islamists is why the US is so squeamish about supplying arms, in North and
South alike. Now, with Russian-backed
attacks from the régime and the Kurds, no one seriously suggests that the FSA
is going to overthrow Assad.
But
suppose, somehow, the FSA were generously reinforced and redirected against IS
- presumably in exchange for some sort of shameful deal with the régime. Would they be the best military answer to
ISIS in Syria? This would be as much as
to say that a heavily reinforced Syrian army, backed by Russian close air support,
Iranian regulars and Shia militias, would not do as well. There isn't the slightest reason to suppose
this. What's more, it's not even clear
that Iran, Russia, the Kurds and Assad won't put an end to ISIS on their own.
But what
about the long term? Wouldn't the FSA
offer a better solution than the régime, whose oppression spawned the extreme
Islamists in the first place? In the
long term there is little reason to suppose so.
Assad's oppression was far from the only factor that spawned extremist
Islam, which took root and flourished much earlier. The West's gratuitous assault on Iraq,
following decades of foolish
interventions in the Middle East, had much to do with it. The FSA can't undo these injuries, and it
will not easily shake its association with the Americans held responsible for
them . Nor do the programs of the FSA
testify to the slightest interest in addressing the poverty and inequality that
are probably the deepest causes of the Islamist surge. Instead FSA & its supporters issue declarations that voice
commitments to liberal
and democratic values. They are sometimes
mildly welfarist but offer no economic or social transformation likely to
interest poorer Syrians. So the idea
that the FSA, as opposed to Assad, offers some lasting solution to the problem
of extremist Islam is implausible.
The
military and political shortcomings of the FSA begin to make the case for
un-vetted support for the rebels, including the extreme Islamists. Contrary to received opinion, it is a
strategy which holds very little risk to the West, very little cost, and some
benefit.
Vetting
Consider
the whole idea of vetting Syrian fighters, as pure a product of American
insularity and ignorance as you're likely to find. For one thing, anyone born and raised under a
brutal police state has learned to conceal his opinions and leanings from much
tougher and wilier intelligence authorities than a CIA officer. For another, the vetting project flies in the
face of Syrian realities.
Vetting
has never been wonderfully effective.
The latest notable failure in the region became apparent when "a
Jordanian physician named Humam
Khalil al-Balawi" blew up seven CIA officers at a meeting in
Afghanistan. I knew someone who vetted
French resistance fighters for the OSS and considered the whole exercise a
joke. But Syria is far, far less favorable terrain
for vetting than Nazi-occupied France. It is far, far less favorable terrain than
contemporary Middle Eastern countries that have experienced unrest such as
Algeria or Egypt.
In
wartime France there were maybe two or three factions to which you could
belong. In Egypt or Algeria, there have
been two or three radical Islamist factions, and it doesn't even matter too
much which one has your allegiance. In
Syria there are literally hundreds of opposition groups, many of them
ephemeral. Not only do these groups have
very different orientations; the groups themselves quite often change their
orientation. Even CIA-vetted groups have
done this. So vetting can easily be
invalidated both at the group and at the individual level.
It's not
just that these opportunities for 'deviance' exist: it's also that constantly changing
circumstances provide powerful motives to deviate. Groups may change for ideological
reasons: they are disillusioned with the
Islamist or secularist movements, or they come to adopt the agenda of some
external supporter. Individuals may
change for these reasons too, but also for many non-ideological reasons. They find that another group has come to be
far more effective against Assad, or they become disgusted with the tactics of
their own group, or they come to consider their current leaders corrupt, or
they are attracted by the salaries of some other group, or they find that their
own group simply isn't militarily viable any more. Finally and perhaps most important, vetted
groups may and frequently do find alliance with un-vetted groups a pressing
strategic necessity. So even if vetting
produced correct conclusions today, those conclusions quite frequently don't
hold tomorrow. The plethora of options
afforded to groups and individuals in Syria is likely unique and completely
undermines the vetting project.
This
makes me impatient with analysts' and commentators' suggestion that such-and-such
group or individual might not be really sincere in their professed commitment
to this or that Western Value. Of course
they might not be; what adult isn't aware that you can't really see into
others' hearts? Syria analysts seem to live
in a world of rebel statements and organizational charts which they treat like
a window on reality. Better not to take
the statements and charts too seriously in the first place, and look instead at
actions and the immediate pressures of circumstances. When you do this, it's immediately clear that
in Syria, individuals frequently and radically change their minds. Rather than fuss about depth of commitment,
policy makers should think about how to give people reason to commit.
Risks
Since
rebel groups and individuals cannot be effectively vetted, they can be
supported only un-vetted. This is the
only real alternative, largely because once the US starts vetting, its hysteria
about al Qaeda deters it from delivering even minimally adequate support, even to
those it distrusts least. But isn't
unvetted support terribly risky, particularly in the case of 'al-Qaeda
affiliated' Jabhat al Nusra? The short
answer is no, if by 'risky' is meant increasing the risk of attacks on the
West. Only the same sort of bad analysis
that underlies vetting can make it seem otherwise.
From the
West's point of view, the main risk posed by Nusra lies in the threat of
attacks on the West. (The West has
certainly shown it is not overly concerned about attacks on Syrians.)
To be
clear from the start, there is absolutely no doubt that Jabhat al Nusra does
indeed pose a terror threat to the US.
Immigrants
and indeed visitors to the US also pose a clear and documented terror threat. Of course there are some other threats. Hezbollah is a threat. Unlike Jabhat al Nusra, it has actually
carried out a truly massive terror attack against US troops. So Assad, Hezbollah's close ally, is also a
threat. The Druze, since many are allies
of Assad and therefore of Hezbollah, also pose a threat. So do many Syrian Christian groups, for the
same reason. Saudi Arabia, the Gulf
States and Turkey, all linked to groups linked to Jabhat al Nusra, must pose a
threat as well. Arguably the US poses a
terror threat to itself, because it trains soldiers knowing some will go nuts
and kill people at random.
In
other words, it is not enough just to
say something is a threat. You need to
know the scale and nature of the threat.
Even more important and usually ignored, you need to know whether the
existence of the threat actually increases the risk of an attack on the West. We'll see that the answer isn't obvious.
The
scale and exact nature of Nusra's threat to the US is, of course, unknown. We can only look at the evidence that Nusra
plans to attack the US, or is likely to do so in the future. That evidence hardly exists.
The
principal ground for seeing Nusra as a threat is that it is 'affiliated' with
Al Qaeda. That at least is actually
confirmed by official Nusra statements. What
does it mean?
In the
first, place, affiliation with Al Qaeda does not mean subordination to the Al
Qaeda leadership. Al Qaeda's leader,
Ayman al-Zawahiri, does give orders or at least exhort affiliates to do or not
to do certain things. Whether they pay
attention is an entirely different matter.
Al Qaeda
is now frequently characterized as a brand - in the loose sense of some set of
names and symbols un-enforced by some sort of intellectual property
police. As Richard Reeve, terrorism
analyst at the UK based Oxford Research Group, puts it: "Brand franchising is essentially what
the AQ 'central' leadership now does..."
And according to Myriam Benraad, policy fellow on the European Council
on Foreign Relations, the al Qaeda affiliation no longer has the impact it was
designed to have. "What we see...
very clearly is the fracturing of what is called al Qaeda, which has more or
less become a brand."
Yet this characterization of Al Qaeda's
relation to its 'affiliates' does not begin to provide an assessment of the
strength of such links. To assess that,
you have to look at the affiliates themselves.
Matters
may be very different in North Africa, but in the case of Jabhat al Nusra, what
the leadership maintains is not, for the membership, written in stone. As we've seen, people join Nusra for all
sorts of non-ideological reasons. What
they have in common is a desire to fight Assad, not some Al Qaeda dogma. So it is not as if Nusra provides hordes
ready to do anything the leadership says.
The idea of its rank and file suddenly devoting themselves to attacking
the West is a non-starter. And since the
leadership depends on its rank-and-file, there is a definite limit to its
capacity to turn anti-Western sentiments into anti-Western plans of action.
Evidence
But
aren't there some serious anti-Western terrorist operatives within Nusra? The chief proponent of this claim is Charles
Lister, who tells us that Nusra is a bigger
threat than ISIS. Why does he say
this? What follows does not review all
his case, but portions representative, I think, of its character.
The
overwhelming bulk of Lister's evidence for his contentions comes under the
rubric of: some people said some
words. It should be obvious that
anywhere, but especially where the Syrian conflict is concerned, this has
little weight. But Lister's claims get
credibility because, in part, they conform to facts on the ground. For the
hostility of Jabhat al Nusra to Western ideals, it is not just a matter of
their statements; it is apparent from,
for example, their regulations about women and their modes of governance. But for the claim that Jabhat al Nusra is a
threat to the West, there isn't one single fact on the ground to support, let
alone confirm it.
Lister
notes that Jabhat al Nusra has bomb experts and that it has planted bombs in
Syria and Lebanon. Yes, it is fighting a
war in Syria and like other groups this leads to occasional conflict with
Lebanese government forces. In this
conflict, everyone uses bombs: that
hasn't the slightest tendency to suggest that any of these parties will use
bombs in the West. Indeed it undermines
Lister's identification of the presence
of Al Qaeda bomb experts in their ranks.
Given that Jabhat al Nusra actually does use bombs in Syria and Lebanon,
and nowhere else, might not they need bomb experts for this purpose, and not
for attacks on the West? Certainly it is
possible that Jabhat al Nusra will in some distant future blow up a shopping
mall in Kansas; it is also possible that the US will invade Canada. These possibilities become serious worries if
and only if there is something more than the presence of individuals who
theoretically could help make these possibilities a reality.
Well,
then, is there some reason to suppose that these individuals have ever planned
an attack on the West? No.
The
basis for claiming otherwise is laughably thin.
Lister tells us that "The first public recognition of this came in
early July 2014, when security at airports with direct service to the United
States was tightened due to “credible threats.”For one thing, this is not only
the first but also the only 'evidence' that the Khorasan group - alleged
super-terrorists whose members Lister has laboriously documented as belonging
to Nusra's core membership - planned an attack on the US. But this is no evidence at all; it is a claim
that there is evidence.
What
then is the actual content of that claim?
Lister points to an article
which has some US-based fans of Nusra doing exactly nothing, plus a government
warning about the July 4th weekend. The warning, however, stated that "At
the moment, U.S. officials say there is no specific, credible threat to the
homeland." Here is an evaluation
of such warnings from Buck Sexton, a former CIA intelligence officer who was
assigned to their Iraq and Afghanistan offices and later joined the NYPD
intelligence division. He is now a TV
commentator, loud and aggressive about terrorism.
The overall odds are low that a major terrorist
attack will be attempted over the July Fourth weekend. Authorities say there is
"no specific, credible threat," which is bureaucrat-speak for
"we don't really know" and is a strong indicator that our intensified
counterterrorism posture is based more on gut instinct than actionable
intelligence.
As for
reports from Syria itself, they seem more like hints than evidence. Consider the basis for the US threat
assessment regarding the Khorasan Group.
The
assessment's character is suggested
in Kevin Jackson's "From Khorasan to the Levant: A Profile of Sanafi
al-Nasr", posted by the Combating Terrorism Center at West Point. Jackson, says
Lister, is one of those "experts whose consistent excellence in researching
and analysing international terrorism has influenced my work." Jackson states that
[al-Nasr's] writings reflect a deep-seated
animus toward the United States that has both ideological and personal
components. In the years after 9/11 one of his brothers was killed and two of
his brothers were imprisoned by the United States.
Allegedly
in 2007 he went to the Afghanistan-Pakistan tribal areas, where he allegedly
befriended Al Qaeda leaders.
What did
he do there? Oh, as far as anyone knows,
mainly media stuff:
There is little documentation of al-Nasr’s
engagement in al-Qa`ida’s military efforts. He is said to have featured in an
al-Sahab production showing rocket attacks in Paktika, a province in
southeastern Afghanistan.[26] Al-Nasr also provided a vivid account of a
multi-pronged attack he had been charged with filming in 2007.[27] This
supports other sources in which he was characterized as one of the “media men
of Qa`idat al-Jihad in Khorasan” by a fellow member of the organization.[n]
Al-Nasr’s only other appearance in al-Qa`ida’s official media was his later
article for the group’s magazine Tala`i’ Khorasan in which he addressed the
issue of Saudi women in custody.
To
shorten the tale, he then went to Iran for a while, did media and supposedly
financing, was arrested, released, and did some more media stuff. Later he went to Syria, and in Jabhat al
Nusra engaged in combat, against Assad of course.(*) He was involved in Nusra internal politics. There is no reason to doubt his importance in
the organization (before his reported death).
But Jackson tell us "It is unclear if al-Nasr had any operational
role in the alleged plotting of international attacks by the Khorasan
Group."
If I may
translate: there is not the slightest,
tiniest scrap of evidence that he ever had such a role or that any such attacks
were planned. All Jackson can muster is
the observation that, in the case of
any such attacks, it is most likely
that he was involved, because he had "close working relationship with
al-Fadhli, who headed external operations for al-Qa`ida Central in Syria." Jackson offers no reason to suppose there was
any such "case", and admits that Jabhat al Nusra doesn't seem to be
planning any such attacks, but well...
you know... Jabhat al Nusra did use bombs in Lebanon during fighting
there.
So this
is a mostly media guy who really doesn't like the US and has fought Assad a
bit. There is no evidence, specific or
general, of any planning whatever of any attacks against the US. This is not like the level of intelligence
available to the US before 9/11, and ignored.
It is like the level of intelligence that would justify Russia acting on
'reports' that the US was about to strike Russia. After all, some high-ranking US military guys
and influential congressmen no doubt know some guys who hate the Russians and
talk a lot about nuking them. And
typical of these analyses, we get extensive, minute detail about individuals
who, for all anyone knows, are up to approximately nothing, followed by stern
conclusions about the menace of the organizations to which they belong.
What
about something more like hard evidence?
Well, not a single Nusra sleeper cell has been identified. No one even states that such cells exist in
the West. Western police forces have
discovered no Nusra-linked documents or arms caches or laptops or cell phones. So the entire case for the Nusra threat is
based on what are essentially mutterings about some members of the group, or
some statements someone associated with the group has at some time made. That's enough, I suppose, to say a threat
exists, because for all we know Nusra might attack the West tomorrow morning. But threats based on such evidence are not
rational grounds for policy.
The terror threat
However,
absence of evidence is far from the main reason support for Nusra should not be considered risky. The main reason is that the obsession with
this or that potentially terrorist group is futile. The terrorist threat will not change in any
substantial way because this or that group is strengthened or weakened.
Most
groups affiliated with Al Qaeda have little or nothing to do with terrorist
attacks on the West. They are almost
invariably opposing local governments and use terrorist tactics because they
cannot achieve much through conventional warfare. ISIS itself has that origin. Oddly enough, any slight shift they exhibit
to attacks on the West occur after the West has sent planes and weapons to kill
and mutilate as many of them as possible.
What's more, in any particular area, the suppression of one group actually
causes another to emerge. Now there are
anti-Western terrorist or potentially terrorist groups in at least Somalia,
Algeria, Mali, Cameroon, Nigeria, Kenya, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan,
the Philippines, Indonesia, Yemen, Lebanon, Palestine, Tunisia, Libya, and
Egypt. Anti-Western terrorists move
among almost all these countries with ease. They have “a huge reservoir of sympathizers who all have western or European passports and who were born or raised” in the West. The idea that eliminating the very slight terrorist threat posed by
Nusra will make a noticeable difference is absurd. Eliminate Nusra, and it will strengthen IS in
Syria by quite a lot, as well as most certainly fostering another Syrian al
Qaeda branch, most likely more anti-Western than Nusra ever was. So Nusra's existence makes does not increase
the overall terrorist threat to the
West one bit. So it does not, after all,
increase risk to the West if Nusra gets its hands on Western arms. The claim that you can substantially reduce
the terror threat only by addressing deeper causes such as invasion, poverty,
inequality and oppression may amount to useless preaching: no, these woes will
not be eliminated. That doesn't change
its truth.
Suppose
then that the West and particularly the US doesn't care about what happens to
Syrians and doesn't care that much - since Obama wants to 'disengage' from the
region - about what happens in the Middle East.
What the West does care about are attacks on Western soil. We've seen that backing Nusra doesn't
appreciably increase the risks, because deep injustices assure that the threat
will remain robust and widespread. So
the terror threat can be reduced only by addressing these deeper causes.
Disengagement
The
problem is that the West can do nothing positive to remedy these injustices:
its destructive incompetence at the silly project of 'nation-building'
is almost universally acknowledged. But
the West can do something negative that will help: it can remove itself as an obstacle to any
remedies.
If the
West cannot improve conditions in Middle Eastern nations, the best it can do
abroad to ward off terror attacks is to remove the grievances that help spawn
them. Un-vetted backing of the rebels
can help the West and especially the US achieve what may seem like incompatible
goals: reducing the threat of terror
attacks and disengaging from the region.
The key to seeing how this works is to note
that, apart from anti-IS campaigns, the only essential function performed by
the US in Syria is to obstruct regional powers from aiding the rebels. The futile vetting project is complemented by
a far-from-futile project to stop the regional
powers from supplying whom they please with what they please. To achieve the 'activist' goal of removing
Assad - and incidentally to curb both
Russian and Iranian influence - the US doesn't have to do anything. It simply has to not do something, to remove the constraints on the Gulf States and
Turkey. The massive aid they can and
should provide wouldn't even need to come from the US; both nations have ample
stocks of arms. That the US would very
likely be the main replenisher of these stocks is hardly the sort of risk that
wannabe policy wonks invoke when they speak of quagmires or 'boots on the
ground'. So massive support for the
rebels isn't just compatible with disengagement; it is disengagement.
Might
this disengagement also reduce the risk of terror attacks - always assuming
that Syria generates appreciable risk in the first place? Here's the correct answer: no one knows.
But that is also the correct answer to the same question about current
US policies, including the campaign against ISIS. That said, there is reason to suppose that
any such risk would be reduced.
If the
deeper roots of terrorism are beyond the reach of Western efforts, the same
doesn't seem to hold for the reasons terrorists attack the West. The main grievances against the West are said
to be that its forces occupy the region and it supports repressive secularist
régimes. In Syria, despite US evasions,
this is certainly the case: the US has
explicitly said it prefers the régime to an Islamist takeover. Well, disengagement from Syria is at least a
small step away from the status of an occupying power in the region. It is a large step away from supporting
repressive secularist régimes.
Looking
at the longer term, US disengagement in support of the rebels and against Assad
seems to go quite far towards neutralizing extremist resentment of the West. Recent experience throughout much of the
region suggests that, absent brutal repression, the future of Syria and other
states is Islamist. This cannot be
stopped; it can only be delayed by shedding oceans of blood. For the US quite clearly to indicate that it
prefers even a radical Islamic presence in the region to atrocious secularist
régimes addresses fundamentalist grievances pretty directly. If indeed foreign policy can do anything to
reduce the threat of terrorist attacks, this would seem the most promising
direction it could take.
There
are other advantages to the sort of
disengagement that gives regional powers a free hand against Assad. Middle Eastern people, like people
everywhere, are selective in their moral outrage - but no less serious about it
for all that. Just as, say, many
Americans care deeply about police murders of black people, but don't give a
shit how many Syrians die in agony, so Middle Eastern people are genuinely
outraged that the West is indifferent to atrocities in Syria, where more
innocents can die in a day than are murdered by US police in a year. So at some primitive level, morality and
Western self-interest converge. Terrorists,
we often hear, are at least in part motivated by a well-founded sense of
justice that, it seems, is baffling to many Westerners. Perhaps if these terrorists were humoured by
genuine, consequential Western opposition to Assad's off-the-charts atrocities,
the West would be hated a little less.
This too might undermine anti-Western agendas.
Finally,
disengagement would improve US and Western credibility. Given all the fine words uttered against
Assad, it would be a bit less confidence-destroying if the West actually
allowed him to be removed, rather than fussing about the Values of those
involved in removing him. Syrians are
probably not impressed by world powers that tut-tut about Nusra's democratic
credentials but apparently accept the democratic credentials of a man who
killed over 100,000 dissidents to stand for election. This is, indeed,
speculation. But again, so are any
claims about the virtues of current US policy, assuming always there is one. In any case, with Russia's entry into the
conflict, those claims have relapsed into silence. (*)
How,
then, does all this bear on the panic about Jabhat al Nusra's Al Qaeda
affiliation? Many in the group are not
fanatics; they joined to fight Assad or even for a salary to feed their families. None, so far as any hard evidence suggests,
have joined to attack the West: that
would be a very odd way to go about such a project. The leadership may possibly be a different
story, but the leadership must depend to some extent on its membership, and
it's hard to believe its membership would want to attack Western nations that,
finally, had make removal of Assad possible.
And even
the leadership are people. People change
their minds, their loyalties and their strategies. It used to be considered naïve to suppose
your alliances had to be with those who like you and share your moral outlook. Perhaps that attitude is worth
revisiting. At this moment Hezbollah is
an essential ally of Bashar al Assad despite the fact that its militants were slaughtered
by his father Hafez. And the US is in a
de facto anti-ISIS alliance with Shia militias who killed American soldiers.
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(*) Jackson's references to al-Nasr's alleged
combat role simply name interviews with Charles Lister and Aimen Dean, so one
has to guess how they provided confirmation. Aimen Dean is a defector from Al Qaeda turned
MI5 spy. However I have found no
indication that Dean ever set foot in Syria, much less Latakia or Idlib.
(**)
Backing rebels who may well come to be dominated by extreme Islamists does pose
one very real risk, to Syria's minorities.
On this score there is reason for optimism.
The West
and especially the US loves to defend minorities against Arab Muslims. This is because while involvement in Syria
generally goes over poorly with the voters, who couldn't care less about Muslim
Syrians, that same electorate is always in favor of defending someone, anyone,
against them. So here there is no political risk to the US president,
which is all that really concerns him.
So non-Muslim minorities will very likely get Western protection if they
need it, and, since Russia tends to favor these same minorities, probably under
UN auspices. As for the Shia, Iran and
Hezbollah can and almost certainly will protect them. So even assuming ill will and fanaticism
among the rebels, any threat they pose to minorities will very likely be
addressed.
Also, Jabhat al-Nusra won't even accept foreign help at all, especially not western supplies. Arms and ammo not received can't fall into the 'wrong hands'. Last year they withdrew from NE Aleppo as local FSA brigades were in talks with Turkey about the establishment of a safe zone (Azzaz - Jarablous). Jabhat al-Nusra argued that it's not right to fight under Turkish air cover, wished their fellow rebels good luck and moved towards Idlib and western Aleppo.
ReplyDelete" Jabhat al-Nusra won't even accept foreign help at all"
DeleteWrong. They are being bankrolled by the Saudis. They receive US made arms via proxies like Ahrar Al Sham.
Wrong. The Saudis supply neither Nusra nor Ahrar al-Sham. The Saudis hate Nusra. They accept AaS only over the last year, since Nusra crushed the Saudi-backed, secular-FSA, Syrian Revolutionaries Front in Idlib. Ahrar was previously backed by non-government (indeed anti-government) groups in the Gulf, hostile to Gulf monarchies. It is now mostly Turkish-backed. Nusra most definitely isn't.
Delete@However, absence of evidence is far from the main reason support for Nusra should not be considered risky. The main reason is that the obsession with this or that potentially terrorist group is futile. The terrorist threat will not change in any substantial way because this or that group is strengthened or weakened.@
ReplyDeleteThis strikes me as extremely hypocritical. Supporters of the rebels have gone to great pains to differentiate the moderate rebels. There was an intense debate not long ago fiercely defending the claim that there were 70,000 moderates in Syria, which David Cameron then cited only to later admit was false.
Now you are here arguing that all the fuss about who is or is not a moderate is pointless and that these Al Qaeda guys weren’t the ones who attacked the US on 911, so they’re not that bad. Not only that, but they'll leave us along so long as we don’t bomb them.
The fact is that the entire premise of supporting Assad’s departure has been predicated on the promise spoken or implied) that the opposition was committed to democracy. But Al Nusra and similar factions have rejected democratic principals outright and by trivializing the threat posed by Al Qaeda factions, you are trying to con the readers into believing that once Assad is gone, the Al Qaeda types will disappear into the background and let the moderates rule the state democratically.
That of course is absurd. The AQ types are considered extremists not only because of the violence they resort to, but because of their ideology and the society they want to create – one based on perverted and extreme interpretations fo Shariah law where the population is oppressed. A society that promises to be every bit and cruel and murderous as the one you want to replace.
Next up, expect the headline to read "ISIS ain't so bad - at least they didn't fly planes into buildings on 911 - and what's a few decapitations of US citizens in the greater scheme of things when the prize is Assad's removal?"
The reason to support Assad's departure is that he is one of history's worst mass murderers and mass torturers. That it's about some washed-out 1950s Nebraska ideal of democracy would be comical were it not contemptible.
ReplyDeleteRubbish. Assad pales in comparison with Bush and Clinton, both who are responsible for the deaths of over 1 million Iraqis.
DeleteDid non-Muslim minorities in Iraq get protection from the US during the Iraq War (which still continues incidentally?) Is that why the egress?
ReplyDeletehey buddy, sorry about Palmyra. you'll get em next time, tiger
ReplyDeleteWhy should I care? I never showed any interest in the who-can-fight-ISIS-best sweepstakes.
DeleteExactly.
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